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| netdev FAQ | |
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| What is netdev? | |
| --------------- | |
| It is a mailing list for all network-related Linux stuff. This | |
| includes anything found under net/ (i.e. core code like IPv6) and | |
| drivers/net (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree. | |
| Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high | |
| volume of traffic have their own specific mailing lists. | |
| The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through | |
| VGER (http://vger.kernel.org/) with archives available at | |
| https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/ | |
| Aside from subsystems like those mentioned above, all network-related | |
| Linux development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on | |
| netdev. | |
| How do the changes posted to netdev make their way into Linux? | |
| -------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| There are always two trees (git repositories) in play. Both are | |
| driven by David Miller, the main network maintainer. There is the | |
| ``net`` tree, and the ``net-next`` tree. As you can probably guess from | |
| the names, the ``net`` tree is for fixes to existing code already in the | |
| mainline tree from Linus, and ``net-next`` is where the new code goes | |
| for the future release. You can find the trees here: | |
| - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.git | |
| - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git | |
| How do I indicate which tree (net vs. net-next) my patch should be in? | |
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| To help maintainers and CI bots you should explicitly mark which tree | |
| your patch is targeting. Assuming that you use git, use the prefix | |
| flag:: | |
| git format-patch --subject-prefix='PATCH net-next' start..finish | |
| Use ``net`` instead of ``net-next`` (always lower case) in the above for | |
| bug-fix ``net`` content. | |
| How often do changes from these trees make it to the mainline Linus tree? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| To understand this, you need to know a bit of background information on | |
| the cadence of Linux development. Each new release starts off with a | |
| two week "merge window" where the main maintainers feed their new stuff | |
| to Linus for merging into the mainline tree. After the two weeks, the | |
| merge window is closed, and it is called/tagged ``-rc1``. No new | |
| features get mainlined after this -- only fixes to the rc1 content are | |
| expected. After roughly a week of collecting fixes to the rc1 content, | |
| rc2 is released. This repeats on a roughly weekly basis until rc7 | |
| (typically; sometimes rc6 if things are quiet, or rc8 if things are in a | |
| state of churn), and a week after the last vX.Y-rcN was done, the | |
| official vX.Y is released. | |
| Relating that to netdev: At the beginning of the 2-week merge window, | |
| the ``net-next`` tree will be closed - no new changes/features. The | |
| accumulated new content of the past ~10 weeks will be passed onto | |
| mainline/Linus via a pull request for vX.Y -- at the same time, the | |
| ``net`` tree will start accumulating fixes for this pulled content | |
| relating to vX.Y | |
| An announcement indicating when ``net-next`` has been closed is usually | |
| sent to netdev, but knowing the above, you can predict that in advance. | |
| .. warning:: | |
| Do not send new ``net-next`` content to netdev during the | |
| period during which ``net-next`` tree is closed. | |
| RFC patches sent for review only are obviously welcome at any time | |
| (use ``--subject-prefix='RFC net-next'`` with ``git format-patch``). | |
| Shortly after the two weeks have passed (and vX.Y-rc1 is released), the | |
| tree for ``net-next`` reopens to collect content for the next (vX.Y+1) | |
| release. | |
| If you aren't subscribed to netdev and/or are simply unsure if | |
| ``net-next`` has re-opened yet, simply check the ``net-next`` git | |
| repository link above for any new networking-related commits. You may | |
| also check the following website for the current status: | |
| http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/net-next.html | |
| The ``net`` tree continues to collect fixes for the vX.Y content, and is | |
| fed back to Linus at regular (~weekly) intervals. Meaning that the | |
| focus for ``net`` is on stabilization and bug fixes. | |
| Finally, the vX.Y gets released, and the whole cycle starts over. | |
| So where are we now in this cycle? | |
| ---------------------------------- | |
| Load the mainline (Linus) page here: | |
| https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git | |
| and note the top of the "tags" section. If it is rc1, it is early in | |
| the dev cycle. If it was tagged rc7 a week ago, then a release is | |
| probably imminent. If the most recent tag is a final release tag | |
| (without an ``-rcN`` suffix) - we are most likely in a merge window | |
| and ``net-next`` is closed. | |
| How can I tell the status of a patch I've sent? | |
| ----------------------------------------------- | |
| Start by looking at the main patchworks queue for netdev: | |
| https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/list/ | |
| The "State" field will tell you exactly where things are at with your | |
| patch. Patches are indexed by the ``Message-ID`` header of the emails | |
| which carried them so if you have trouble finding your patch append | |
| the value of ``Message-ID`` to the URL above. | |
| How long before my patch is accepted? | |
| ------------------------------------- | |
| Generally speaking, the patches get triaged quickly (in less than | |
| 48h). But be patient, if your patch is active in patchwork (i.e. it's | |
| listed on the project's patch list) the chances it was missed are close to zero. | |
| Asking the maintainer for status updates on your | |
| patch is a good way to ensure your patch is ignored or pushed to the | |
| bottom of the priority list. | |
| Should I directly update patchwork state of my own patches? | |
| ----------------------------------------------------------- | |
| It may be tempting to help the maintainers and update the state of your | |
| own patches when you post a new version or spot a bug. Please do not do that. | |
| Interfering with the patch status on patchwork will only cause confusion. Leave | |
| it to the maintainer to figure out what is the most recent and current | |
| version that should be applied. If there is any doubt, the maintainer | |
| will reply and ask what should be done. | |
| I made changes to only a few patches in a patch series should I resend only those changed? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| No, please resend the entire patch series and make sure you do number your | |
| patches such that it is clear this is the latest and greatest set of patches | |
| that can be applied. | |
| I have received review feedback, when should I post a revised version of the patches? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Allow at least 24 hours to pass between postings. This will ensure reviewers | |
| from all geographical locations have a chance to chime in. Do not wait | |
| too long (weeks) between postings either as it will make it harder for reviewers | |
| to recall all the context. | |
| Make sure you address all the feedback in your new posting. Do not post a new | |
| version of the code if the discussion about the previous version is still | |
| ongoing, unless directly instructed by a reviewer. | |
| I submitted multiple versions of a patch series and it looks like a version other than the last one has been accepted, what should I do? | |
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| There is no revert possible, once it is pushed out, it stays like that. | |
| Please send incremental versions on top of what has been merged in order to fix | |
| the patches the way they would look like if your latest patch series was to be | |
| merged. | |
| Are there special rules regarding stable submissions on netdev? | |
| --------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| While it used to be the case that netdev submissions were not supposed | |
| to carry explicit ``CC: stable@vger.kernel.org`` tags that is no longer | |
| the case today. Please follow the standard stable rules in | |
| :ref:`Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst <stable_kernel_rules>`, | |
| and make sure you include appropriate Fixes tags! | |
| Is the comment style convention different for the networking content? | |
| --------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Yes, in a largely trivial way. Instead of this:: | |
| /* | |
| * foobar blah blah blah | |
| * another line of text | |
| */ | |
| it is requested that you make it look like this:: | |
| /* foobar blah blah blah | |
| * another line of text | |
| */ | |
| I am working in existing code which uses non-standard formatting. Which formatting should I use? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| Make your code follow the most recent guidelines, so that eventually all code | |
| in the domain of netdev is in the preferred format. | |
| I found a bug that might have possible security implications or similar. Should I mail the main netdev maintainer off-list? | |
| --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| No. The current netdev maintainer has consistently requested that | |
| people use the mailing lists and not reach out directly. If you aren't | |
| OK with that, then perhaps consider mailing security@kernel.org or | |
| reading about http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/distros | |
| as possible alternative mechanisms. | |
| What level of testing is expected before I submit my change? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------ | |
| At the very minimum your changes must survive an ``allyesconfig`` and an | |
| ``allmodconfig`` build with ``W=1`` set without new warnings or failures. | |
| Ideally you will have done run-time testing specific to your change, | |
| and the patch series contains a set of kernel selftest for | |
| ``tools/testing/selftests/net`` or using the KUnit framework. | |
| You are expected to test your changes on top of the relevant networking | |
| tree (``net`` or ``net-next``) and not e.g. a stable tree or ``linux-next``. | |
| How do I post corresponding changes to user space components? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| User space code exercising kernel features should be posted | |
| alongside kernel patches. This gives reviewers a chance to see | |
| how any new interface is used and how well it works. | |
| When user space tools reside in the kernel repo itself all changes | |
| should generally come as one series. If series becomes too large | |
| or the user space project is not reviewed on netdev include a link | |
| to a public repo where user space patches can be seen. | |
| In case user space tooling lives in a separate repository but is | |
| reviewed on netdev (e.g. patches to ``iproute2`` tools) kernel and | |
| user space patches should form separate series (threads) when posted | |
| to the mailing list, e.g.:: | |
| [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: some feature cover letter | |
| └─ [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: some feature prep | |
| └─ [PATCH net-next 2/3] net: some feature do it | |
| └─ [PATCH net-next 3/3] selftest: net: some feature | |
| [PATCH iproute2-next] ip: add support for some feature | |
| Posting as one thread is discouraged because it confuses patchwork | |
| (as of patchwork 2.2.2). | |
| Can I reproduce the checks from patchwork on my local machine? | |
| -------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Checks in patchwork are mostly simple wrappers around existing kernel | |
| scripts, the sources are available at: | |
| https://github.com/kuba-moo/nipa/tree/master/tests | |
| Running all the builds and checks locally is a pain, can I post my patches and have the patchwork bot validate them? | |
| -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| No, you must ensure that your patches are ready by testing them locally | |
| before posting to the mailing list. The patchwork build bot instance | |
| gets overloaded very easily and netdev@vger really doesn't need more | |
| traffic if we can help it. | |
| netdevsim is great, can I extend it for my out-of-tree tests? | |
| ------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| No, ``netdevsim`` is a test vehicle solely for upstream tests. | |
| (Please add your tests under ``tools/testing/selftests/``.) | |
| We also give no guarantees that ``netdevsim`` won't change in the future | |
| in a way which would break what would normally be considered uAPI. | |
| Is netdevsim considered a "user" of an API? | |
| ------------------------------------------- | |
| Linux kernel has a long standing rule that no API should be added unless | |
| it has a real, in-tree user. Mock-ups and tests based on ``netdevsim`` are | |
| strongly encouraged when adding new APIs, but ``netdevsim`` in itself | |
| is **not** considered a use case/user. | |
| Any other tips to help ensure my net/net-next patch gets OK'd? | |
| -------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Attention to detail. Re-read your own work as if you were the | |
| reviewer. You can start with using ``checkpatch.pl``, perhaps even with | |
| the ``--strict`` flag. But do not be mindlessly robotic in doing so. | |
| If your change is a bug fix, make sure your commit log indicates the | |
| end-user visible symptom, the underlying reason as to why it happens, | |
| and then if necessary, explain why the fix proposed is the best way to | |
| get things done. Don't mangle whitespace, and as is common, don't | |
| mis-indent function arguments that span multiple lines. If it is your | |
| first patch, mail it to yourself so you can test apply it to an | |
| unpatched tree to confirm infrastructure didn't mangle it. | |
| Finally, go back and read | |
| :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>` | |
| to be sure you are not repeating some common mistake documented there. |